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		<description><![CDATA[All in the family: Cabin crises A cabin can be a breeding ground for a family feud. It&#8217;s important to plan how to pass it down through generations. PAY DIRTKARA MCGUIRE Bea Anderson and her siblings have always made decisions &#8230; <a class="more-link" href="http://joelmullenlaw.com/all-in-the-family-cabin-crises">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">A cabin can be a breeding ground for a family feud. It&#8217;s important to plan how to pass it down through generations.</div>
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<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Bea Anderson and her siblings have always made decisions about their shared cabin with a handshake. With just a brother and a sister and their spouses to consult, that hasn&#8217;t so hard. But the cabin on Lake Vermillion, which has been in the family for more than 50 years, will pass to seven families in the next generation. &#8220;When there&#8217;s more people involved, then you get more opinions. We wanted to set up guidelines about how we feel the cabin can be run successfully,&#8221; Bea&#8217;s husband, Jerry Anderson, said. They needed a plan and turned to a cabin trust. Without a trust, cabins are often passed to the next generation in equal shares, with equal responsibility for the expenses and upkeep. That arrangement is known as tenants-in-common. No problem, right? But what if the new generation of owners can&#8217;t devise a schedule for using the cabin? What if they can&#8217;t make decisions about whether to put on a new roof or add a garage? What happens if someone wants to sell his share of the cabin? In the event of a divorce or death, does the unrelated spouse get an interest, so a share of the cabin is now owned outside of the family? And if one owner can&#8217;t afford his share and ultimately files for</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">bankruptcy, then what? &#8220;The solutions to those [issues], if you don&#8217;t have some mechanism to deal with them, is a court proceeding. And as you can imagine, kids don&#8217;t get long so well after you serve them papers,&#8221; said Joel Mullen, a Bloomington attorney who specializes in cabin trusts. A trust lays out how a cabin is to be owned, cared for, paid for and used once the current owners pass away. It also addresses who will be the trustee. Typically, one or more of the children are selected, but sometimes a neutral third party, such as a bank without an interest in the cabin, is selected.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">In the case of Bea&#8217;s family cabin, the current owners gave the future owners some time to think about whether they wanted to own art of the cabin. Jerry Anderson wasn&#8217;t</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">surprised when everyone said they wanted in. The cabin is built on land Bea&#8217;s father, who was a miner in Soudan, Minn., bought from the mining company. &#8220;It is really special,&#8221; he said. In the event that someone says &#8220;no thanks,&#8221; families typically use other assets from the estate to buy that person&#8217;s share of the cabin.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Family wishes</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Working with St. Paul attorney Frank Heers, the family created a rotation to ensure one family doesn&#8217;t get all the good holidays. They also came up with rules about how to</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">spend money to maintain the property. Large projects that would cost thousands, like putting on a new roof or building an addition, for example, require 100 percent agreement, while with most smaller projects, the majority rules. Most important, they agreed upon rules outlining one of the most contentious cabin issues: What happens if one family wants to sell its share? Attorneys recommend that after determining fair market value, the family wanting out sells its share to the other owners at a discount. Without [the discount], it doesn&#8217;t really give a financial incentive to your brother or sister to buy you out. So we create that,&#8221; Mullen said. Payments could be spread out over several years so the sale wouldn&#8217;t strain the remaining owners&#8217; finances. In addition to a cabin trust, cabin owners might also consider a limited liability corporation or limited liability partnership. Heers uses an LLC when someone out of state owns an interest in a Minnesota cabin. He also considers it if multiple families own a cabin or the property is being rented out. LLCs can do a better job to limit the liability of the cabin owners in the event that a visitor is injured at the property and then sues. LLCs can also last forever. If those options seem like overkill, tenants-in-common should at least create a tenancy agreement, which Heers describes as &#8220;a contract between co-tenants to use the</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">property a certain way.&#8221; But he doesn&#8217;t create many tenancy agreements because major ownership issues, such as what happens to the property in the event of a divorce or bankruptcy, aren&#8217;t easily addressed. Ideally, estate planning attorneys say that a cabin trust would go hand-in-hand with the rest of an estate plan, especially if estate taxes are an issue. According to the attorneys I spoke with, a cabin trust or LLC will cost you anywhere from $1,500 to $4,000. Some attorneys who usually work on a flat-fee basis may charge by the hour because creating a cabin estate plan can be messy. But the expense and hassle are likely cheaper than a mediation between several owners who have no rules to abide by and can&#8217;t come to an agreement. A tenants-in-common agreement should cost less than $1,000. Whether a family goes with a tenants-incommon agreement, a cabin trust or an LLC, there is one advantage that comes with all of the options: Families discuss their wishes. Sometimes, the current owners just assume the younger generation wants to keep the cabin in the family when, in fact, the kids can&#8217;t wait to sell it. Other times, parents assume children who grumble about making it to the family lake house will want to unload it. But the children have visions of spending lazy summers fishing with their kids. &#8220;Having that honest conversation really helps,&#8221; Mullen said. Easier said than done, right? Here are resources to consider. Peter McClellan had many clients who insisted their kids wouldn&#8217;t fight when they died. &#8220;Then they pass away and it&#8217;s World War III,&#8221; said McClellan, president of the 401k Latte Co. in Lakeville. So he compiled a book of inheritance stories called &#8220;Cabinosity&#8221; with the hopes that it would get families to start talking before it&#8217;s too late. Another resource that deals with inheritance without squabbles is the University of Minnesota Extension Service&#8217;s &#8220;Who Gets</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Grandma&#8217;s Yellow Pie Plate?&#8221; A lot of that material is available at www.yellowpieplate.umn.edu.</div>
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<h3><span style="color: #993300;"><em><span style="font-size: large;">A cabin can be a breeding ground for a family feud. It&#8217;s important to plan how to pass it down through generations.</span></em></span></h3>
<p><em><span style="font-size: small;">original article published in the Minnesota Star Tribune by KARA MCGUIRE<br />
</span><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></em><span style="font-size: small;"> </span><a href="http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/yourmoney/55459457.html" target="_blank"><em><span style="font-size: small;">http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/yourmoney/55459457.html</span></em></a></p>
<p>Bea Anderson and her siblings have always made decisions about their shared cabin with a handshake. With just a brother and a sister and their spouses to consult, that hasn&#8217;t so hard. But the cabin on Lake Vermillion, which has been in the family for more than 50 years, will pass to seven families in the next generation. &#8220;When there&#8217;s more people involved, then you get more opinions. We wanted to set up guidelines about how we feel the cabin can be run successfully,&#8221; Bea&#8217;s husband, Jerry Anderson, said. They needed a plan and turned to a cabin trust. Without a trust, cabins are often passed to the next generation in equal shares, with equal responsibility for the expenses and upkeep. That arrangement is known as tenants-in-common. No problem, right?</p>
<p>But what if the new generation of owners can&#8217;t devise a schedule for using the cabin? What if they can&#8217;t make decisions about whether to put on a new roof or add a garage? What happens if someone wants to sell his share of the cabin? In the event of a divorce or death, does the unrelated spouse get an interest, so a share of the cabin is now owned outside of the family? And if one owner can&#8217;t afford his share and ultimately files for bankruptcy, then what?</p>
<p>&#8220;The solutions to those [issues], if you don&#8217;t have some mechanism to deal with them, is a court proceeding. And as you can imagine, kids don&#8217;t get long so well after you serve them papers,&#8221; said Joel Mullen, a Bloomington attorney who specializes in cabin trusts. A trust lays out how a cabin is to be owned, cared for, paid for and used once the current owners pass away. It also addresses who will be the trustee. Typically, one or more of the children are selected, but sometimes a neutral third party, such as a bank without an interest in the cabin, is selected.</p>
<p>In the case of Bea&#8217;s family cabin, the current owners gave the future owners some time to think about whether they wanted to own art of the cabin. Jerry Anderson wasn&#8217;t surprised when everyone said they wanted in. The cabin is built on land Bea&#8217;s father, who was a miner in Soudan, Minn., bought from the mining company. &#8220;It is really special,&#8221; he said. In the event that someone says &#8220;no thanks,&#8221; families typically use other assets from the estate to buy that person&#8217;s share of the cabin.</p>
<h3><span style="color: #993300;"><span style="font-size: large;">Family wishes</span></span></h3>
<p>Working with St. Paul attorney Frank Heers, the family created a rotation to ensure one family doesn&#8217;t get all the good holidays. They also came up with rules about how to spend money to maintain the property. Large projects that would cost thousands, like putting on a new roof or building an addition, for example, require 100 percent agreement, while with most smaller projects, the majority rules.</p>
<p>Most important, they agreed upon rules outlining one of the most contentious cabin issues: What happens if one family wants to sell its share? Attorneys recommend that after determining fair market value, the family wanting out sells its share to the other owners at a discount.</p>
<p>Without [the discount], it doesn&#8217;t really give a financial incentive to your brother or sister to buy you out. So we create that,&#8221; Mullen said. Payments could be spread out over several years so the sale wouldn&#8217;t strain the remaining owners&#8217; finances. In addition to a cabin trust, cabin owners might also consider a limited liability corporation or limited liability partnership. Heers uses an LLC when someone out of state owns an interest in a Minnesota cabin.</p>
<p>He also considers it if multiple families own a cabin or the property is being rented out. LLCs can do a better job to limit the liability of the cabin owners in the event that a visitor is injured at the property and then sues. LLCs can also last forever. If those options seem like overkill, tenants-in-common should at least create a tenancy agreement, which Heers describes as &#8220;a contract between co-tenants to use the property a certain way.&#8221;</p>
<p>But he doesn&#8217;t create many tenancy agreements because major ownership issues, such as what happens to the property in the event of a divorce or bankruptcy, aren&#8217;t easily addressed. Ideally, estate planning attorneys say that a cabin trust would go hand-in-hand with the rest of an estate plan, especially if estate taxes are an issue.</p>
<p>According to the attorneys I spoke with, a cabin trust or LLC will cost you anywhere from $1,500 to $4,000. Some attorneys who usually work on a flat-fee basis may charge by the hour because creating a cabin estate plan can be messy. But the expense and hassle are likely cheaper than a mediation between several owners who have no rules to abide by and can&#8217;t come to an agreement. A tenants-in-common agreement should cost less than $1,000.</p>
<p>Whether a family goes with a tenants-incommon agreement, a cabin trust or an LLC, there is one advantage that comes with all of the options: Families discuss their wishes. Sometimes, the current owners just assume the younger generation wants to keep the cabin in the family when, in fact, the kids can&#8217;t wait to sell it. Other times, parents assume children who grumble about making it to the family lake house will want to unload it.</p>
<p>But the children have visions of spending lazy summers fishing with their kids. &#8220;Having that honest conversation really helps,&#8221; Mullen said. Easier said than done, right? Here are resources to consider. Peter McClellan had many clients who insisted their kids wouldn&#8217;t fight when they died. &#8220;Then they pass away and it&#8217;s World War III,&#8221; said McClellan, president of the 401k Latte Co. in Lakeville. So he compiled a book of inheritance stories called &#8220;Cabinosity&#8221; with the hopes that it would get families to start talking before it&#8217;s too late.</p>
<p>Another resource that deals with inheritance without squabbles is the University of Minnesota Extension Service&#8217;s &#8220;Who Gets Grandma&#8217;s Yellow Pie Plate?&#8221; A lot of that material is available at <a href="http://www.yellowpieplate.umn.edu" target="_parent">www.yellowpieplate.umn.edu</a>.</p>
<p><em>Kara McGuire, Minneapolis Star Tribune • 612-673-7293.</em></p>
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<p>MINNEAPOLIS, MN, Oct. 2 &#8211; Fighting over the family cabin after the parents are gone can devastate relationships between siblings. The Cabin Trust lays out the parameters of use including detailed rules on equity, taxes, expenses and responsibilities for the family cabin. With a properly drafted Cabin Trust, the family cabin can continue on as a family asset because everyone involved understands their role and responsibility. There is nothing left to fight about.</p>
<p>Wills and trusts have always treated the family cabin just like stocks or bonds. In other words, just another family asset. This leaves the children to decide between themselves to keep it, sell it, or have one or two kids keep it and pay the other kids off with other estate assets.</p>
<p>However, this is rarely how these situations resolve themselves. No one has an emotional attachment to 1,000 shares of General Electric. But start talking about what to do with the family cabin and the sparks start to fly. The cabin is the family&#8217;s Kennebunkport. Maybe not always in net worth, but certainly in terms of the family memories created there.</p>
<p>Therefore, this is the one asset that the parents usually do not want the kids to liquidate and then divide up the cash. They want the cabin to continue as a family asset where their kids can continue to enjoy it with their own kids. Unfortunately, without the proper arrangements, instead of bringing the family together as intended, the family cabin can tear a family apart after the parents are gone.</p>
<p>The kids often have very different lives and so very different expectations of the cabin&#8217;s use. Even if they all agree to sell the cabin, there are often disagreements. And if they decide to keep the cabin, fights can erupt over its use, expenses, taxes and who is responsible for what. All too often the cabin becomes a nightmare for the kids rather than a precious shared family asset. In these situations, a cabin destroys family relationships that often never get repaired. The Cabin Trust can keep the cabin in the family and the kids out of court.</p>
<p>Learn about the Cabin Trust; what it is, how it works, what&#8217;s involved, and how to use it in an existing estate plan. Attend the free Cabin Trust seminar on October 22, 2008, by Estate Attorney Joel Mullen. The seminar is at the 8400 Building of the Normandale Lake Office Center in the lower level training room from 6:00 &#8211; 7:00pm.</p>
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